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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1261&quot;&gt;Lee&lt;/a&gt;.

I was not working the case and the only email I saw from Microsoft and Citrix referenced the Microsoft hotfix and to also make sure all antivirus exclusions were configured. We did find their traditional antivirus software was causing a severe performance issues with a specific application (well over 14000 actions while launching the application). Disabling the antivirus services cut the launch time of the application from 45 seconds to 15 seconds. Obviously, making sure exclusions are properly configured are important. The customer has decided to remove their traditional antivirus software from all servers and are moving to https://www.cylance.com/ . Cylance also requires precautions with &quot;Citrix&quot; servers and specific applications but has a very small RAM and CPU footprint. Watching it prevent ransomware attacks in real-time is amazing.

Thanks

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1261">Lee</a>.</p>
<p>I was not working the case and the only email I saw from Microsoft and Citrix referenced the Microsoft hotfix and to also make sure all antivirus exclusions were configured. We did find their traditional antivirus software was causing a severe performance issues with a specific application (well over 14000 actions while launching the application). Disabling the antivirus services cut the launch time of the application from 45 seconds to 15 seconds. Obviously, making sure exclusions are properly configured are important. The customer has decided to remove their traditional antivirus software from all servers and are moving to <a href="https://www.cylance.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.cylance.com/</a> . Cylance also requires precautions with &#8220;Citrix&#8221; servers and specific applications but has a very small RAM and CPU footprint. Watching it prevent ransomware attacks in real-time is amazing.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Carl,

we have a similar issue here, almost identical to what you have seen.
Can you give any idea where I can find information on the known issues with heavy IO as it may help point me in the direction of how this update can actually be applied and if it is valid? 
as obviously we wouldn&#039;t want to downgrade our ntfs.sys file on a whim, if we could work out how to do it at all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p>we have a similar issue here, almost identical to what you have seen.<br />
Can you give any idea where I can find information on the known issues with heavy IO as it may help point me in the direction of how this update can actually be applied and if it is valid?<br />
as obviously we wouldn&#8217;t want to downgrade our ntfs.sys file on a whim, if we could work out how to do it at all&#8230;</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
		<link>https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1260</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 12:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1259&quot;&gt;Jonathan Pitre&lt;/a&gt;.

In a large enterprise with very strict change control, they used the update Microsoft told them to use. Installing Citrix or Microsoft updates into images where over 1000 applications are used by people around the world is not an easy task. They are still testing updated apps so they can finish their move off of PS4.5 and Server 2003.


Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1259">Jonathan Pitre</a>.</p>
<p>In a large enterprise with very strict change control, they used the update Microsoft told them to use. Installing Citrix or Microsoft updates into images where over 1000 applications are used by people around the world is not an easy task. They are still testing updated apps so they can finish their move off of PS4.5 and Server 2003.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Jonathan Pitre		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Pitre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 05:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is the lastest version of ntfs.sys for 2008 R2 and yes fixes are cumulative. 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121255

No need to call MS to get a deprecated hotfix.

In fact there is more than 800 hotfixes for 2008 R2. I strongly suggest you just use KUC http://www.windows-update-checker.com and just install all of them into your golden images. The recommended hotfixes list by Citrix is missing just a few hundreds...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the lastest version of ntfs.sys for 2008 R2 and yes fixes are cumulative.<br />
<a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121255" rel="nofollow ugc">https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3121255</a></p>
<p>No need to call MS to get a deprecated hotfix.</p>
<p>In fact there is more than 800 hotfixes for 2008 R2. I strongly suggest you just use KUC <a href="http://www.windows-update-checker.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.windows-update-checker.com</a> and just install all of them into your golden images. The recommended hotfixes list by Citrix is missing just a few hundreds&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jeremy Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 00:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1255&quot;&gt;Carl Webster&lt;/a&gt;.

No problems. I&#039;m just curious. I got hold of the hotfix and tried to run it on a test machine that already had a newer version of ntfs.sys. WUSA said that it wasn&#039;t applicable. Sorry, I&#039;m just intrigued how this hotfix applied.

Cheers,
Jeremy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1255">Carl Webster</a>.</p>
<p>No problems. I&#8217;m just curious. I got hold of the hotfix and tried to run it on a test machine that already had a newer version of ntfs.sys. WUSA said that it wasn&#8217;t applicable. Sorry, I&#8217;m just intrigued how this hotfix applied.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jeremy</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1256&quot;&gt;Jeremy Saunders&lt;/a&gt;.

I was working on GPO issues so I was not here when they applied the hotfix. Both Citrix and Microsoft were on the call with the customer so I was not directly involved. I was just asked to write it up.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1256">Jeremy Saunders</a>.</p>
<p>I was working on GPO issues so I was not here when they applied the hotfix. Both Citrix and Microsoft were on the call with the customer so I was not directly involved. I was just asked to write it up.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Jeremy Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 21:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1255&quot;&gt;Carl Webster&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s weird. Then logic tells me it shouldn&#039;t have applied. Hotfixes only update older files. So the update rolled back the version of the nfts.sys file, or did it do something else?

Cheers,
Jeremy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1255">Carl Webster</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s weird. Then logic tells me it shouldn&#8217;t have applied. Hotfixes only update older files. So the update rolled back the version of the nfts.sys file, or did it do something else?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jeremy</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1254&quot;&gt;Jeremy Saunders&lt;/a&gt;.

The ntfs.sys file in the hotfix was older than what was in the PVS image having the issue.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/citrix-xenapp-server-running-on-windows-server-2008-r2-hard-locks-under-heavy-load/comment-page-1/#comment-1254">Jeremy Saunders</a>.</p>
<p>The ntfs.sys file in the hotfix was older than what was in the PVS image having the issue.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Jeremy Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Webster,

Nice write-up.

This is just an updated ntfs.sys file. I wonder if the security update from kb2840149 would have also solved the issue given that it&#039;s a newer version? Possibly no need to contact Microsoft.

Cheers,
Jeremy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Webster,</p>
<p>Nice write-up.</p>
<p>This is just an updated ntfs.sys file. I wonder if the security update from kb2840149 would have also solved the issue given that it&#8217;s a newer version? Possibly no need to contact Microsoft.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Jeremy</p>
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