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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 19:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-7291&quot;&gt;Arden&lt;/a&gt;.

I would never clone a DC. Build a new VM and promote it to a DC and then demote the original.

I would transfer the PDCe FSMO role first in your scenario you described.

If you have only one domain, the infrastructure master and domain naming master FSMO roles do nothing.

Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-7291">Arden</a>.</p>
<p>I would never clone a DC. Build a new VM and promote it to a DC and then demote the original.</p>
<p>I would transfer the PDCe FSMO role first in your scenario you described.</p>
<p>If you have only one domain, the infrastructure master and domain naming master FSMO roles do nothing.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		By: Arden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2020 07:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw this article very helpful and I have a situation similar to this but not exactly.
If you could help please.

I have cloned a DC 2008 R2 from VMWare to Hyper-V and I have to demote it first then promote as a DC. 
The only FSMO role that this DC has is the PDC and the rest of them we have them are running from our AWS DC.
Before I proceed with the demote and then promote I would like to have some advice from a professional like you.
What are the risks and steps that I should be more concerned ?

Thank you.
Arden.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this article very helpful and I have a situation similar to this but not exactly.<br />
If you could help please.</p>
<p>I have cloned a DC 2008 R2 from VMWare to Hyper-V and I have to demote it first then promote as a DC.<br />
The only FSMO role that this DC has is the PDC and the rest of them we have them are running from our AWS DC.<br />
Before I proceed with the demote and then promote I would like to have some advice from a professional like you.<br />
What are the risks and steps that I should be more concerned ?</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
Arden.</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-1631&quot;&gt;Shafiul azam&lt;/a&gt;.

You can&#039;t migrate from Windows Server 2003 to Server 2016.
You can&#039;t bring up a 2016 domain controller if there is a 2003 domain controller in AD.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-1631">Shafiul azam</a>.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t migrate from Windows Server 2003 to Server 2016.<br />
You can&#8217;t bring up a 2016 domain controller if there is a 2003 domain controller in AD.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Shafiul azam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shafiul azam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 07:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Sir,
 when i am migration windows server 2003 to windows server 2016 its complete but problem is  below .

a) Name Resolution/Network Connectivity to the current domain controller.
b) File Replication Service Latency (a file created on another domain controller
has not replicated to the current domain controller).
c) The Distributed File System (DFS) client has been disabled.
To diagnose the failure, review the event log or run GPRESULT /H GPReport.html f
rom the command line to access information about Group Policy results.

In this regard  i need your help /suggestion what can i do now. If possible reply as soon as possible]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir,<br />
 when i am migration windows server 2003 to windows server 2016 its complete but problem is  below .</p>
<p>a) Name Resolution/Network Connectivity to the current domain controller.<br />
b) File Replication Service Latency (a file created on another domain controller<br />
has not replicated to the current domain controller).<br />
c) The Distributed File System (DFS) client has been disabled.<br />
To diagnose the failure, review the event log or run GPRESULT /H GPReport.html f<br />
rom the command line to access information about Group Policy results.</p>
<p>In this regard  i need your help /suggestion what can i do now. If possible reply as soon as possible</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-1542&quot;&gt;wanh&lt;/a&gt;.

When a DC crashes or is lost in any way, the FSMO roles are still tied to that server. Look up &quot;FSMO Role seizure&quot; to see the process for forcing the FSMO roles to be given to another DC. Once you have seized the FSMO roles, the original DC should NEVER be brought back on the network or the domain.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-1542">wanh</a>.</p>
<p>When a DC crashes or is lost in any way, the FSMO roles are still tied to that server. Look up &#8220;FSMO Role seizure&#8221; to see the process for forcing the FSMO roles to be given to another DC. Once you have seized the FSMO roles, the original DC should NEVER be brought back on the network or the domain.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: wanh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wanh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2018 01:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i have a beside question, if the DC which holes  roles suddenly down then what happen to the roles?  if they could be transferred automatically to my ADC or not? And if not, is there a method which can help ADC realizes the problem itself and becomes the PDC automatically. thanks alot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a beside question, if the DC which holes  roles suddenly down then what happen to the roles?  if they could be transferred automatically to my ADC or not? And if not, is there a method which can help ADC realizes the problem itself and becomes the PDC automatically. thanks alot.</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-728&quot;&gt;Aaron Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure. Change the IP, and either restart the netlogon service or restart the server. Personally, I prefer to restart the server for a &quot;just to make sure of all things&quot; good feeling.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-728">Aaron Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Sure. Change the IP, and either restart the netlogon service or restart the server. Personally, I prefer to restart the server for a &#8220;just to make sure of all things&#8221; good feeling.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		By: Aaron Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hello Carl, 

I hope you get this but I have a few questions.

I&#039;ve been writing up a document to transfer our FSMO roles from windows 2003 to another server we&#039;ve revived with server 2012 R2.

Our current IP set on what we&#039;ll call server A (has a ip of .2. THe dns has .3 (backup DC we&#039;ll call server B) the second DNS is the loopback IP address. 

IP: 192.168.1.2
DNS: 192.168.1.3 (from Backup DC Server)
DNS2: 127.0.0.1

My manager wanted to know if we can keep the same IP on the new server and if this was possible. I also wanted to know if this needs to be done after we transfer the FSMO roles over. 

The IP of the server running server 2012 would be a .6. All workstation in the office has their DNS set to 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3. Rather than having to reconfigure their DNS IP, can we set the new server up with the same .2 ip address as the old server and change the iP of the old to a different IP?

This would save us a lot of time if this was possible.

Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Carl, </p>
<p>I hope you get this but I have a few questions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been writing up a document to transfer our FSMO roles from windows 2003 to another server we&#8217;ve revived with server 2012 R2.</p>
<p>Our current IP set on what we&#8217;ll call server A (has a ip of .2. THe dns has .3 (backup DC we&#8217;ll call server B) the second DNS is the loopback IP address. </p>
<p>IP: 192.168.1.2<br />
DNS: 192.168.1.3 (from Backup DC Server)<br />
DNS2: 127.0.0.1</p>
<p>My manager wanted to know if we can keep the same IP on the new server and if this was possible. I also wanted to know if this needs to be done after we transfer the FSMO roles over. </p>
<p>The IP of the server running server 2012 would be a .6. All workstation in the office has their DNS set to 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3. Rather than having to reconfigure their DNS IP, can we set the new server up with the same .2 ip address as the old server and change the iP of the old to a different IP?</p>
<p>This would save us a lot of time if this was possible.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-726&quot;&gt;Julio&lt;/a&gt;.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/255504

Explains the process with the very important note:



&lt;blockquote&gt;A domain controller whose FSMO roles have been seized should not be permitted to communicate with existing domain controllers in the forest. In this scenario, you should either format the hard disk and reinstall the operating system on such domain controllers or forcibly demote such domain controllers on a private network and then remove their metadata on a surviving domain controller in the forest by using the ntdsutil /metadata cleanup command. The risk of introducing a former FSMO role holder whose role has been seized into the forest is that the original role holder may continue to operate as before until it inbound-replicates knowledge of the role seizure. Known risks of two domain controllers owning the same FSMO roles include creating security principals that have overlapping RID pools, and other problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How it is done:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/223787



&lt;blockquote&gt;When the administrator seizes an FSMO role from an existing computer, the &quot;fsmoRoleOwner&quot; attribute is modified on the object that represents the root of the data directly bypassing synchronization of the data and graceful transfer of the role. The &quot;fsmoRoleOwner&quot; attribute of each of the following objects is written with the Distinguished Name (DN) of the NTDS Settings object (the data in the Active Directory that defines a computer as a domain controller) of the domain controller that is taking ownership of that role. As replication of this change starts to spread, other domain controllers learn of the FSMO role change. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



Hope this helps.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-726">Julio</a>.</p>
<p><a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/255504" rel="nofollow ugc">https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/255504</a></p>
<p>Explains the process with the very important note:</p>
<blockquote><p>A domain controller whose FSMO roles have been seized should not be permitted to communicate with existing domain controllers in the forest. In this scenario, you should either format the hard disk and reinstall the operating system on such domain controllers or forcibly demote such domain controllers on a private network and then remove their metadata on a surviving domain controller in the forest by using the ntdsutil /metadata cleanup command. The risk of introducing a former FSMO role holder whose role has been seized into the forest is that the original role holder may continue to operate as before until it inbound-replicates knowledge of the role seizure. Known risks of two domain controllers owning the same FSMO roles include creating security principals that have overlapping RID pools, and other problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>How it is done:</p>
<p><a href="https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/223787" rel="nofollow ugc">https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/223787</a></p>
<blockquote><p>When the administrator seizes an FSMO role from an existing computer, the &#8220;fsmoRoleOwner&#8221; attribute is modified on the object that represents the root of the data directly bypassing synchronization of the data and graceful transfer of the role. The &#8220;fsmoRoleOwner&#8221; attribute of each of the following objects is written with the Distinguished Name (DN) of the NTDS Settings object (the data in the Active Directory that defines a computer as a domain controller) of the domain controller that is taking ownership of that role. As replication of this change starts to spread, other domain controllers learn of the FSMO role change. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 04:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, 
Very well explained article.
I have a doubt.
If a DC that holds all the FSMO roles crashed, the seize is the only alternative to work with.
But How exactly the seize works, I mean, if a DC holds the FSMO roles, schema, GC, PDC, etc, and crashed, how the seize procedure obtains the info to allow another DC to hold the FSMO roles.
Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Very well explained article.<br />
I have a doubt.<br />
If a DC that holds all the FSMO roles crashed, the seize is the only alternative to work with.<br />
But How exactly the seize works, I mean, if a DC holds the FSMO roles, schema, GC, PDC, etc, and crashed, how the seize procedure obtains the info to allow another DC to hold the FSMO roles.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2016 12:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-724&quot;&gt;Pete&lt;/a&gt;.

FSMO is the term used since the beginning of AD.
It is best to manually transfer roles that way you decide what domain controller has the role and not a randomly picked DC.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-724">Pete</a>.</p>
<p>FSMO is the term used since the beginning of AD.<br />
It is best to manually transfer roles that way you decide what domain controller has the role and not a randomly picked DC.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2016 12:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Explains exactly what I&#039;ve been looking for without luck until now: What happens to DNS if you demote a DC with the DNS server &#038; does a demotion on 2012 automatically recreate the FSMO roles to another server.

Is FSMO a term no longer used in 2012? Is it now Operations Masters?
Why &quot;It is really best to transfer any FSMO roles before demoting a DC.&quot;?

Thanks,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explains exactly what I&#8217;ve been looking for without luck until now: What happens to DNS if you demote a DC with the DNS server &amp; does a demotion on 2012 automatically recreate the FSMO roles to another server.</p>
<p>Is FSMO a term no longer used in 2012? Is it now Operations Masters?<br />
Why &#8220;It is really best to transfer any FSMO roles before demoting a DC.&#8221;?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olivier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-722&quot;&gt;Carl Webster&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much for your response !
Olivier]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-722">Carl Webster</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much for your response !<br />
Olivier</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-721&quot;&gt;Olivier&lt;/a&gt;.

If a DC crashes, FSMO roles are not automatically transferred. If the crashed DC holds the PDCe role, you will be in for some headaches if that DC is down for a few days.

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-721">Olivier</a>.</p>
<p>If a DC crashes, FSMO roles are not automatically transferred. If the crashed DC holds the PDCe role, you will be in for some headaches if that DC is down for a few days.</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,

Thank you for this article. I&#039;m asking FSMO role comportement in another situation : I have 4 DCs and they are working properly. If 1 DCs hosting FSMO role crashed for few days, does FMSO role will be automaticaly transfered to another DC or does the FSMO role will be unavailable until I transfert the role ?
I&#039;m working on Windows 2012R2.

Thank you,

Regards,

Olivier]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thank you for this article. I&#8217;m asking FSMO role comportement in another situation : I have 4 DCs and they are working properly. If 1 DCs hosting FSMO role crashed for few days, does FMSO role will be automaticaly transfered to another DC or does the FSMO role will be unavailable until I transfert the role ?<br />
I&#8217;m working on Windows 2012R2.</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Olivier</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-719&quot;&gt;Zach&lt;/a&gt;.

I would have no fear in seizing the roles. A FSMO role holder is not the only domain controller that stores accounts and permissions. FSMO role are just roles that perform specific domain and or forest level functions. Read this article:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780487(WS.10).aspx

There have obviously been no schema changes or domains added to the forest during this time.

I would be digging into the event logs on all your DCs.

If you need help, I am available for hire to help you out. :)

Thanks

Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-719">Zach</a>.</p>
<p>I would have no fear in seizing the roles. A FSMO role holder is not the only domain controller that stores accounts and permissions. FSMO role are just roles that perform specific domain and or forest level functions. Read this article:</p>
<p><a href="https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780487(WS.10).aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780487(WS.10).aspx</a></p>
<p>There have obviously been no schema changes or domains added to the forest during this time.</p>
<p>I would be digging into the event logs on all your DCs.</p>
<p>If you need help, I am available for hire to help you out. 🙂</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Carl,

I&#039;ve started work at a company where it looks like the FSMO roles are on a server that crashed several months ago.  Running &quot;netdom query fsmo&quot; shows all roles on as living on the crashed server...but authentication is continuing to work as well as new account creation, etc...

Something doesn&#039;t seem right, but I believe 4 months is long enough for lack of any active FSMO roles to have bitten them...but it hasn&#039;t yet...I&#039;m sure it is a matter of time, but after this long, is there any fear in seizing these roles from an active server?  If the FSMO server is not online, where are these accounts and permissions being stored?  Will seizing the roles unravel this unnatural (but functioning) environment?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started work at a company where it looks like the FSMO roles are on a server that crashed several months ago.  Running &#8220;netdom query fsmo&#8221; shows all roles on as living on the crashed server&#8230;but authentication is continuing to work as well as new account creation, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Something doesn&#8217;t seem right, but I believe 4 months is long enough for lack of any active FSMO roles to have bitten them&#8230;but it hasn&#8217;t yet&#8230;I&#8217;m sure it is a matter of time, but after this long, is there any fear in seizing these roles from an active server?  If the FSMO server is not online, where are these accounts and permissions being stored?  Will seizing the roles unravel this unnatural (but functioning) environment?</p>
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		By: Carl Webster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Webster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-717&quot;&gt;bjarnebo&lt;/a&gt;.

FSMO roles are never automatically transferred in a crash. For a crash scenario where the crashed DC will not or cannot be brought back online, then you will have to seize the FSMO roles the crashed DC held.

Thanks


Webster]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.carlwebster.com/what-happens-to-the-fsmo-roles-when-the-domain-controller-that-holds-them-is-demoted/comment-page-1/#comment-717">bjarnebo</a>.</p>
<p>FSMO roles are never automatically transferred in a crash. For a crash scenario where the crashed DC will not or cannot be brought back online, then you will have to seize the FSMO roles the crashed DC held.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Webster</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very fine test Webster, thank you.
In the case that you do not demote LABDC1 (Win2008 R2 env.) but it crashes and do not get up again, do you know if any FSMO roles are automatically transferred or it is needed to manually seize all the FSMO roles?
Am I so lucky that you have tested such a situation... Appreciate your input, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very fine test Webster, thank you.<br />
In the case that you do not demote LABDC1 (Win2008 R2 env.) but it crashes and do not get up again, do you know if any FSMO roles are automatically transferred or it is needed to manually seize all the FSMO roles?<br />
Am I so lucky that you have tested such a situation&#8230; Appreciate your input, thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice article, thanks for making the effort, makes it very clear]]></description>
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